Meg...
...I think I did it backwards... they say to marry for money first and then for love. I married for love...
I had heard that it was the other way around but it doesn't matter, love is the only acceptable reason to get married. A marriage can make you happier than anything in the world and it also has to power to devastate your life. So, unless love is involved, marriage could be a DISASTER!
You know, love will get you through times of no money a helluva lot better than money will get you through times of no love. A poor couple who has each other and are secure in that fact will out-happy a couple who married for the wrong reasons or under the wrong circumstances.
Look at all of those Hollywood brats for example...I think that we could all name a couple of long term Hollywood marriages. But we could easily rattle off an endless list of people whose marriages crumbled within moments of leaving the alter. So, obviously, money does not a happy marriage make. I envy Square1 and her marriage for love immensely more than I envy Jennifer Anniston. But what do most people in the country want? Brad Pitt or HIS tramp du jour, the chick whose lips seem to have a hormone problem. Both proven losers in the love department, for some reason they facsinate millions of mindless twits.
I don't understand why a woman would be more impressed with a mans' job than his character. Hell, even DJ's are the object of many a woman's affections, simply because they sit in a small room and play music. Although there are some very popular drive-time DJ's, most are just guys with little more than a nice voice making little more than minimum wage. Heck, for the most part, the women are earning more than the DJ's. Unfortunately, these women add to the inflated egos of some truly nerdy dudes.
That's where some of the arrogance of some men come from...women who swoon over them for reasons other than mutual affection. Some women judge a man simply by his job title and that's just plain stupid.
My ex owns his own business and it's pretty successful. Business owners are another lot that these women go for. I guess the bottom line is money...if they think that the guy has money, they don't care about much else. A guy with money is so attractive to these women that they don't even mind if he's married.
Of course, there are the women who just want a man, any man. Yours, mine, hers, it doesn't matter, if you marry a man with a few bucks he is fair game in the eyes of women who don't look past the dollar signs.
I've had it both ways, I married one successful business man and one clod who couldn't earn enough money to pay his bills. Looking back, I would naturally prefer the one with the business. He was very generous and I didn't want for a thing. But he cheated on me almost as badly as the poor dude did. If I had to be in a faithless marriage, I would take the cheater with cash 8 days a week...but all in all, I would just be happy to have a man who only needed one woman...me.
Ladies, don't you find a man who truly cares for you attractive no matter what his physical or financial attributes are? What turns you on the most about a man? I have heard women say that power is sexy. That may be true but Alan Greenspan won't be in any of my fantasies.
So, what is it that turns you on, ladies? Cash, looks, power, personality...or something competely different?
I'm going to go drink some coffee and I'll see you back here in a little while!
Meg
...I think I did it backwards... they say to marry for money first and then for love. I married for love...
I had heard that it was the other way around but it doesn't matter, love is the only acceptable reason to get married. A marriage can make you happier than anything in the world and it also has to power to devastate your life. So, unless love is involved, marriage could be a DISASTER!
You know, love will get you through times of no money a helluva lot better than money will get you through times of no love. A poor couple who has each other and are secure in that fact will out-happy a couple who married for the wrong reasons or under the wrong circumstances.
Look at all of those Hollywood brats for example...I think that we could all name a couple of long term Hollywood marriages. But we could easily rattle off an endless list of people whose marriages crumbled within moments of leaving the alter. So, obviously, money does not a happy marriage make. I envy Square1 and her marriage for love immensely more than I envy Jennifer Anniston. But what do most people in the country want? Brad Pitt or HIS tramp du jour, the chick whose lips seem to have a hormone problem. Both proven losers in the love department, for some reason they facsinate millions of mindless twits.
I don't understand why a woman would be more impressed with a mans' job than his character. Hell, even DJ's are the object of many a woman's affections, simply because they sit in a small room and play music. Although there are some very popular drive-time DJ's, most are just guys with little more than a nice voice making little more than minimum wage. Heck, for the most part, the women are earning more than the DJ's. Unfortunately, these women add to the inflated egos of some truly nerdy dudes.
That's where some of the arrogance of some men come from...women who swoon over them for reasons other than mutual affection. Some women judge a man simply by his job title and that's just plain stupid.
My ex owns his own business and it's pretty successful. Business owners are another lot that these women go for. I guess the bottom line is money...if they think that the guy has money, they don't care about much else. A guy with money is so attractive to these women that they don't even mind if he's married.
Of course, there are the women who just want a man, any man. Yours, mine, hers, it doesn't matter, if you marry a man with a few bucks he is fair game in the eyes of women who don't look past the dollar signs.
I've had it both ways, I married one successful business man and one clod who couldn't earn enough money to pay his bills. Looking back, I would naturally prefer the one with the business. He was very generous and I didn't want for a thing. But he cheated on me almost as badly as the poor dude did. If I had to be in a faithless marriage, I would take the cheater with cash 8 days a week...but all in all, I would just be happy to have a man who only needed one woman...me.
Ladies, don't you find a man who truly cares for you attractive no matter what his physical or financial attributes are? What turns you on the most about a man? I have heard women say that power is sexy. That may be true but Alan Greenspan won't be in any of my fantasies.
So, what is it that turns you on, ladies? Cash, looks, power, personality...or something competely different?
I'm going to go drink some coffee and I'll see you back here in a little while!
Meg
posted by Meg Kelso | 6:44 AM
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Hi Meg! From what I saw, the cruel.com people appear to like being mean for the sake of mean (I understand mean in response to a specific situation ie. some of the Vex posts are kind of vicious, but I can see how that sources from being cheated on, hit, and left destitute while survival was in question). From what I've skimmed there, it appears to be a general undifferentiated meanness to anyone/everyone, for the simple sake of being mean. As we said back in the day - mean people suck. (although I do see their truth in advertising, as it is - I read a comment there that said something like "well it is CRUEL.com" - touche). I think that it's kind of sad that there are people who actively seek out that type of discourse, as I don't get the whole mean for the sake of mean thing (which, of course, is why I don't frequent that board - I stopped reading the Chicago CraigsList general Rant & Rave section for the same reason, the predominant majority of the posters are a bunch of haters - I got tired of wading thru the sea of racist, homophobic, misogynist, anti-fat/etc to find the funny/clever posts -- when it comes to CraigsList its the "Best Of" section or nothing now).
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There was a great scene in the Vagina Monologues where Eve Ensler advocates that women take back the word cunt (ie. make it empowering, not pejorative). There were these grandma-types a few rows in front of us that got into it and were quietly chanting "cunt cunt cunt" along with her at the end of the scene - too funny.
For me... romance is my biggest turn-on... I have to watch myself around men who are in the least bit charming. My others is unconditional acceptance and love, and I have that in my husband. It was there a little at the beginning and we've worked very hard to build it to what it's become today, and I would not trade it for Brad Pitt or any of the other Hollywood pretty boys. Sean Connery, Harrison Ford, and The Rock being the exceptions... but that's not for their money. That's because they're just damned sexy men!
I should clarify... I would not trade my marriage for those last three men I mentioned... it would be tempting for sure... but I would choose my husband hands down. That last comment came out all commingeled!
While I would agree that marriage for love is most definitely the most successful form, I think it is necessary to understand the drive for women to marry for money.
Without trying to reduce a woman's thought process to an analysis, I think that in the end, a woman is searching for a provider. This provider is not just a provider of money, but of love and support, and all the other facets of a successful relationship. But if you look closer at the base instinct of every organism on Earth, the main goal is to be "fit" (in evolutionary terms), which means produce a large amount of healthy offspring. If, in the end, the only way to reporoduce successfully is to marry a man who will be able to provide a home, food, and monetary support, but who may lack the intangible qualities, the woman is sometimes 'forced', or at least driven, to choose this man.
This is only the opinion of a 17 year old male, who has most definitely not been married, but please don't dismiss my views based on my inexperience. Feel free to disagree, however :-).
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Milk... I can see why she deletes your posts. You're just plain creepy. 'Nuff said.
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