Meg...
....Without trying to reduce a woman's thought process to an analysis, I think that in the end, a woman is searching for a provider. This provider is not just a provider of money, but of love and support, and all the other facets of a successful relationship. But if you look closer at the base instinct of every organism on Earth, the main goal is to be "fit" (in evolutionary terms), which means produce a large amount of healthy offspring. If, in the end, the only way to reproduce successfully is to marry a man who will be able to provide a home, food, and monetary support, but who may lack the intangible qualities, the woman is sometimes 'forced', or at least driven, to choose this man.
I understand where you’re coming from. There are certain biological instincts that have to do with reproduction. But most of those are the kinds of instincts that “drive” men and women to find each other appealing...for example, men being attracted to the “big round things.” The human body doesn’t have any innate “drive” to aspire to such man-made things as money. If so, it wouldn't matter who had the money, a woman with money would be just as appealing as a man with money. I don’t think that nature would have supplied us with a basic urge to be rich...nature doesn’t know about money. But...for a 17 year old, that was pretty darn good reasoning!
I would not trade my marriage for those last three men I mentioned... it would be tempting for sure... but I would choose my husband hands down.
Sure, power, money and things like that are tempting. But they don’t keep you warm at night and they don’t sit with you at the dinner table and make you happy. They don’t make loving fathers and they certainly won’t make a woman happy, deep inside themselves, for any length of time. Obviously, some women define their own happiness by the men that they are with. I did. In my own mind, I couldn’t be happy without Vex. But...I am! And he didn’t even HAVE any cash, nor did he have any power. He just had a big bald head that knew how to manipulate and a big mouth that he used to manipulate with. How stupid was that of me? Just as stupid as a woman who thinks that money would make them happy. What money makes you is free to play and while that’s nice, it STILL won’t keep you warm at night.
For me... romance is my biggest turn-on... I have to watch myself around men who are in the least bit charming. My others is unconditional acceptance and love, and I have that in my husband...and I would not trade it for Brad Pitt or any of the other Hollywood pretty boys. Sean Connery, Harrison Ford, and The Rock being the exceptions... but that's not for their money. That's because they're just damned sexy men!
LOLOLOL, yeah, I hear that. (Personally, I would choose Michael Madsen...but that’s just me.) Romance is a turn on because you can tell that the man is romancing YOU! That means that he finds you attractive and that can be very appealing in itself. Does anybody remember being so young that all it took was for a boy to like you?
I guess the grown up version is the “unconditional acceptance and love” that you mentioned. It IS very sexy, isn’t it? Knowing that a man loves you unconditionally is freeing and helps a woman release herself from any inhibitions she may have. When you are NOT that secure in your man, you don’t tend to be as open with him...in any way, shape or form.
A man with the ability to love a woman unconditionally is quite a recipe for happiness all around...the men who love that way are never disappointed and in response, they love more. Could you imagine how happy a man would be with a woman who KNOWS that he will be there no matter what? These are the smart men...they get that love back in ways they themselves never imagined!
Hi Meg! From what I saw, the cruel people appear to like being mean for the sake of mean...From what I've skimmed there, it appears to be a general undifferentiated meanness to anyone/everyone, for the simple sake of being mean. As we said back in the day - mean people suck....I think that it's kind of sad that there are people who actively seek out that type of discourse...the predominant majority of the posters are a bunch of haters - I got tired of wading thru the sea of racist, homophobic, misogynist, anti-fat/etc to find the funny/clever posts....
Yeah...I guess you could say that it’s sad. It certainly shows you how many parents have failed to do their jobs. Just ignore them and understand that their hate comes from a lack of something in their own lives. If they had ANYTHING going for them, they would be out doing those things. Instead, they are just a pathetic group of losers who have found a place to congregate. Good for them. Jealousy is a hideous thing, it causes them to be so blinded to any good that there could be in their own lives that they continually seek out happy people to attack. Could you imagine having nothing better to do with your time than to attack others? They don't even realize that by doing the attacking, they are elevating those whom they attack...simply by comparison.
Obviously, these particular losers have entirely given up on finding any redeeming qualities that they may have possessed and they are on a mission to attack people who have what they lack. I suppose I could find it sad. But, I must admit to being somewhat gratified to know that they are so unGodly miserable with their own lives that they feel the need to behave like a bunch of unruly 13 year old boys (I realize that there are girls there, too. There parents must be so darned proud of them!). Their one source of happiness is their perceived ability to be cruel. The absence of concern is indifference, when you aren't mature enough to be infifferent to those whom you dislike, there is no way for you to be satisfied in your own life. They can't stop themselves from letting me know that they are so sad...I don't have to do a thing but sit back and let them amuse each other and in doing so, they show themselves for the dunces that they are. Oh well, Just be happy that you aren’t that miserable and smile, smile, smile!
Courageously Unquenchable, Naturally Tenacious. There was a great scene in the Vagina Monologues where Eve Ensler advocates that women take back the word cunt (ie. make it empowering, not pejorative). There were these grandma-types a few rows in front of us that got into it and were quietly chanting "cunt cunt cunt" along with her at the end of the scene - too funny.
Well, I must say that I missed the Vagina Monologues. So, I can’t even comment on this one but I have no desire to “take back the word cunt”. I am not bothered by words, they are what they are... words. And to feel as though you must take it back is sort of giving in to the people who use it to be derogatory. I prefer to just surround myself with people who wouldn’t use words that I don’t want to hear.
But...I would have given my left tit to see those old ladies chanting “Cunt, cunt, cunt!”
It’s becoming hot again and I don’t know where my landlord has run off to with the rent money! He can’t stay gone forever.
Well, since I HAVE a life, I am going to go out and attend to it!
See ya!
Meg
....Without trying to reduce a woman's thought process to an analysis, I think that in the end, a woman is searching for a provider. This provider is not just a provider of money, but of love and support, and all the other facets of a successful relationship. But if you look closer at the base instinct of every organism on Earth, the main goal is to be "fit" (in evolutionary terms), which means produce a large amount of healthy offspring. If, in the end, the only way to reproduce successfully is to marry a man who will be able to provide a home, food, and monetary support, but who may lack the intangible qualities, the woman is sometimes 'forced', or at least driven, to choose this man.
I understand where you’re coming from. There are certain biological instincts that have to do with reproduction. But most of those are the kinds of instincts that “drive” men and women to find each other appealing...for example, men being attracted to the “big round things.” The human body doesn’t have any innate “drive” to aspire to such man-made things as money. If so, it wouldn't matter who had the money, a woman with money would be just as appealing as a man with money. I don’t think that nature would have supplied us with a basic urge to be rich...nature doesn’t know about money. But...for a 17 year old, that was pretty darn good reasoning!
I would not trade my marriage for those last three men I mentioned... it would be tempting for sure... but I would choose my husband hands down.
Sure, power, money and things like that are tempting. But they don’t keep you warm at night and they don’t sit with you at the dinner table and make you happy. They don’t make loving fathers and they certainly won’t make a woman happy, deep inside themselves, for any length of time. Obviously, some women define their own happiness by the men that they are with. I did. In my own mind, I couldn’t be happy without Vex. But...I am! And he didn’t even HAVE any cash, nor did he have any power. He just had a big bald head that knew how to manipulate and a big mouth that he used to manipulate with. How stupid was that of me? Just as stupid as a woman who thinks that money would make them happy. What money makes you is free to play and while that’s nice, it STILL won’t keep you warm at night.
For me... romance is my biggest turn-on... I have to watch myself around men who are in the least bit charming. My others is unconditional acceptance and love, and I have that in my husband...and I would not trade it for Brad Pitt or any of the other Hollywood pretty boys. Sean Connery, Harrison Ford, and The Rock being the exceptions... but that's not for their money. That's because they're just damned sexy men!
LOLOLOL, yeah, I hear that. (Personally, I would choose Michael Madsen...but that’s just me.) Romance is a turn on because you can tell that the man is romancing YOU! That means that he finds you attractive and that can be very appealing in itself. Does anybody remember being so young that all it took was for a boy to like you?
I guess the grown up version is the “unconditional acceptance and love” that you mentioned. It IS very sexy, isn’t it? Knowing that a man loves you unconditionally is freeing and helps a woman release herself from any inhibitions she may have. When you are NOT that secure in your man, you don’t tend to be as open with him...in any way, shape or form.
A man with the ability to love a woman unconditionally is quite a recipe for happiness all around...the men who love that way are never disappointed and in response, they love more. Could you imagine how happy a man would be with a woman who KNOWS that he will be there no matter what? These are the smart men...they get that love back in ways they themselves never imagined!
Hi Meg! From what I saw, the cruel people appear to like being mean for the sake of mean...From what I've skimmed there, it appears to be a general undifferentiated meanness to anyone/everyone, for the simple sake of being mean. As we said back in the day - mean people suck....I think that it's kind of sad that there are people who actively seek out that type of discourse...the predominant majority of the posters are a bunch of haters - I got tired of wading thru the sea of racist, homophobic, misogynist, anti-fat/etc to find the funny/clever posts....
Yeah...I guess you could say that it’s sad. It certainly shows you how many parents have failed to do their jobs. Just ignore them and understand that their hate comes from a lack of something in their own lives. If they had ANYTHING going for them, they would be out doing those things. Instead, they are just a pathetic group of losers who have found a place to congregate. Good for them. Jealousy is a hideous thing, it causes them to be so blinded to any good that there could be in their own lives that they continually seek out happy people to attack. Could you imagine having nothing better to do with your time than to attack others? They don't even realize that by doing the attacking, they are elevating those whom they attack...simply by comparison.
Obviously, these particular losers have entirely given up on finding any redeeming qualities that they may have possessed and they are on a mission to attack people who have what they lack. I suppose I could find it sad. But, I must admit to being somewhat gratified to know that they are so unGodly miserable with their own lives that they feel the need to behave like a bunch of unruly 13 year old boys (I realize that there are girls there, too. There parents must be so darned proud of them!). Their one source of happiness is their perceived ability to be cruel. The absence of concern is indifference, when you aren't mature enough to be infifferent to those whom you dislike, there is no way for you to be satisfied in your own life. They can't stop themselves from letting me know that they are so sad...I don't have to do a thing but sit back and let them amuse each other and in doing so, they show themselves for the dunces that they are. Oh well, Just be happy that you aren’t that miserable and smile, smile, smile!
Courageously Unquenchable, Naturally Tenacious. There was a great scene in the Vagina Monologues where Eve Ensler advocates that women take back the word cunt (ie. make it empowering, not pejorative). There were these grandma-types a few rows in front of us that got into it and were quietly chanting "cunt cunt cunt" along with her at the end of the scene - too funny.
Well, I must say that I missed the Vagina Monologues. So, I can’t even comment on this one but I have no desire to “take back the word cunt”. I am not bothered by words, they are what they are... words. And to feel as though you must take it back is sort of giving in to the people who use it to be derogatory. I prefer to just surround myself with people who wouldn’t use words that I don’t want to hear.
But...I would have given my left tit to see those old ladies chanting “Cunt, cunt, cunt!”
It’s becoming hot again and I don’t know where my landlord has run off to with the rent money! He can’t stay gone forever.
Well, since I HAVE a life, I am going to go out and attend to it!
See ya!
Meg
posted by Meg Kelso | 12:01 PM
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Some people have no life.
MARGARET,,,
Sois it worht if now? Are tou happy with all the cruel people atinting you?
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