In response to...
...the post about lie detector tests, someone wrote:
"...I had failed an employment polygraph exam for a prominent federal law enforcement agency while telling the truth. My job offer was rescinded effective immediately.I hate being accused of something that i haven't done..."
Well, I understand that. Not much makes me as angrier than being accused of something that I didn't do. Luckily, that doesn't happen much since my parents stared at all 6 of us kids, wondering who did what. The few times that I would be pegged for something that I didn't do really made me mad. Too bad my parents didn't have access to a lie detector test.
Of course, I didn't know how to fake them then....I came up with my idea as an adult. But, when I tested my theory, it did work. If the Mythbuster guys were friends of mine, I'd show the world how to fake one out on their show...but they aren't.
I don't know how to make lies appear to be the truth. And I don't know why someone who's telling the truth would appear to be lying. What I can do, though, is make every single answer that I give show the same striking response no matter what the question is. If I were hooked up to a lie detector, every question that I answered would make the needle go haywire. No matter what question the guy asks me, from "Is your name Meg" to "Did you have anything to do with the JFK assasination?", I sit there and make myself have a surge of adrenaline that would baffle the test-giver and make him say, "I don't know what this means, it's inconclusive." And since the same response was elicited for every single question, they can't even say that it "looks deceptive".
I know damn well it works and I'm blown away that the guy who gave the test to the alledged child molestor has never come across anyone else who can do that. I can't be the only one who knows how.
Now, since I didn't ever take a lie detector test TRYING to pass it, I don't know how to make it say that I'm being honest...but I can totally blow the results. I would bet all that I have that I could fake out any lie detector test that was administered to me. And, since I know that the test can be manipulated, I can't possibly place any faith in the results of any lie detector test. So, the fact that the commentator lost a job over one is a shame.
I'm sure that the tests are usually accurate, that is assuming that the person doesn't know anything about how they work. But, knowing what I can do makes me think twice when a person claims that the test had to have been wrong.
Like I said, all I have to do is elicit that "butterflies in my tummy" feeling which in response will release a bit of adrenaline into my system. That will immediately make my heart rate vary and my sweat glands will respond imperceptively as well. Of course, it also makes me inhale a bit more deeply and my blood pressure vary as well. All of the responses that the test-giver is looking for when someone lies will go overboard when I do that. I do it from the beginning so that even when the guy asks me the questions that are obviously true, the same response will show up on the machine. So, the guy doesn't know what to think of my responses.
I bet that if you tried for a while, you could do it too. And, if you ever have to take a lie detector test, try it. You'll have to be sure that you can make yourself feel that funny feeling in your belly first and that takes a bit of practice. When you can summon that feeling at will, you're ready to take the test and totally mess up the results.
I think that we should all learn how to do that and then begin doing it so that we can get rid of lie detector tests once and for all. They aren't admissible in court anyway...so I think they should be done away with. Especially when I hear about people who told the truth and were STILL accused of lying.
If there's anyone else out there who's ever had to take a lie detector test, I'd like to hear from you. What was your experience? You certainly don't have to leave your name, I'm just curious about how the test worked for you.
Then, if any of you can elicit that feeling...let me know. It's a bio-feedback type of thing. If anyone out there works with lie detector tests and believes that they cannot be faked, let me know. I'll blow any test you give me. The test-giver dude said that he didn't think the man was faking it because he didn't SEE the guy trying to manipulate the readings. Well, of course you can't SEE someone thinking...so I think that the guy, as I do, knows how to totally screw up the results.
If I were accused of a crime and was actually guilty, I would offer to take a lie detector test because I know that you can't get a deceptive result from me. So, that's why I think the guy was lying. He wanted to take the test for the simple reason of LOOKING innocent. Why would a guilty man WANT to take the test? Because he KNOWS he can fake it out. And I know that I can do it too.
OK, I have a few errands to run and then I'll be back.
See ya!
Meg
PS I just wrote an email to the guy who gave the test on the Dr. Phil Show and told him that I knew how the guy faked the test. Now, if he wants to know the REAL truth, he should wonder what I'm talking about. Especially considering that he's done this for 20 years and didn't know how the guy on the show faked his test.
PPS I just found a site called antipolygraph.org . It pretty much comes right out and says that lie detector tests are a crack. It was started by people who used to give the tests and now realize that they are more of a joke than even they were led to believe. They said that the test is used more as an interrogation than a scientific test and that the people giving them KNOW that. So, they aren't really testing you for lies so much as they are testing your response to the IDEA of taking a polygraph. It's amazing how even the law enforcement community can lie so well.
...the post about lie detector tests, someone wrote:
"...I had failed an employment polygraph exam for a prominent federal law enforcement agency while telling the truth. My job offer was rescinded effective immediately.I hate being accused of something that i haven't done..."
Well, I understand that. Not much makes me as angrier than being accused of something that I didn't do. Luckily, that doesn't happen much since my parents stared at all 6 of us kids, wondering who did what. The few times that I would be pegged for something that I didn't do really made me mad. Too bad my parents didn't have access to a lie detector test.
Of course, I didn't know how to fake them then....I came up with my idea as an adult. But, when I tested my theory, it did work. If the Mythbuster guys were friends of mine, I'd show the world how to fake one out on their show...but they aren't.
I don't know how to make lies appear to be the truth. And I don't know why someone who's telling the truth would appear to be lying. What I can do, though, is make every single answer that I give show the same striking response no matter what the question is. If I were hooked up to a lie detector, every question that I answered would make the needle go haywire. No matter what question the guy asks me, from "Is your name Meg" to "Did you have anything to do with the JFK assasination?", I sit there and make myself have a surge of adrenaline that would baffle the test-giver and make him say, "I don't know what this means, it's inconclusive." And since the same response was elicited for every single question, they can't even say that it "looks deceptive".
I know damn well it works and I'm blown away that the guy who gave the test to the alledged child molestor has never come across anyone else who can do that. I can't be the only one who knows how.
Now, since I didn't ever take a lie detector test TRYING to pass it, I don't know how to make it say that I'm being honest...but I can totally blow the results. I would bet all that I have that I could fake out any lie detector test that was administered to me. And, since I know that the test can be manipulated, I can't possibly place any faith in the results of any lie detector test. So, the fact that the commentator lost a job over one is a shame.
I'm sure that the tests are usually accurate, that is assuming that the person doesn't know anything about how they work. But, knowing what I can do makes me think twice when a person claims that the test had to have been wrong.
Like I said, all I have to do is elicit that "butterflies in my tummy" feeling which in response will release a bit of adrenaline into my system. That will immediately make my heart rate vary and my sweat glands will respond imperceptively as well. Of course, it also makes me inhale a bit more deeply and my blood pressure vary as well. All of the responses that the test-giver is looking for when someone lies will go overboard when I do that. I do it from the beginning so that even when the guy asks me the questions that are obviously true, the same response will show up on the machine. So, the guy doesn't know what to think of my responses.
I bet that if you tried for a while, you could do it too. And, if you ever have to take a lie detector test, try it. You'll have to be sure that you can make yourself feel that funny feeling in your belly first and that takes a bit of practice. When you can summon that feeling at will, you're ready to take the test and totally mess up the results.
I think that we should all learn how to do that and then begin doing it so that we can get rid of lie detector tests once and for all. They aren't admissible in court anyway...so I think they should be done away with. Especially when I hear about people who told the truth and were STILL accused of lying.
If there's anyone else out there who's ever had to take a lie detector test, I'd like to hear from you. What was your experience? You certainly don't have to leave your name, I'm just curious about how the test worked for you.
Then, if any of you can elicit that feeling...let me know. It's a bio-feedback type of thing. If anyone out there works with lie detector tests and believes that they cannot be faked, let me know. I'll blow any test you give me. The test-giver dude said that he didn't think the man was faking it because he didn't SEE the guy trying to manipulate the readings. Well, of course you can't SEE someone thinking...so I think that the guy, as I do, knows how to totally screw up the results.
If I were accused of a crime and was actually guilty, I would offer to take a lie detector test because I know that you can't get a deceptive result from me. So, that's why I think the guy was lying. He wanted to take the test for the simple reason of LOOKING innocent. Why would a guilty man WANT to take the test? Because he KNOWS he can fake it out. And I know that I can do it too.
OK, I have a few errands to run and then I'll be back.
See ya!
Meg
PS I just wrote an email to the guy who gave the test on the Dr. Phil Show and told him that I knew how the guy faked the test. Now, if he wants to know the REAL truth, he should wonder what I'm talking about. Especially considering that he's done this for 20 years and didn't know how the guy on the show faked his test.
PPS I just found a site called antipolygraph.org . It pretty much comes right out and says that lie detector tests are a crack. It was started by people who used to give the tests and now realize that they are more of a joke than even they were led to believe. They said that the test is used more as an interrogation than a scientific test and that the people giving them KNOW that. So, they aren't really testing you for lies so much as they are testing your response to the IDEA of taking a polygraph. It's amazing how even the law enforcement community can lie so well.
posted by Meg Kelso | 7:27 AM
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Well, after my unfortunate experience, I searched the web to find similar experiences, and was surprised to not only find other experiences like mine, but also find entire books and articles written on how to pass the polygraph.
See, I was so damn honest, that when the law enforcement officials asked us not to look up info on the Internet as to how to pass a polygraph cause "it'll mess you up", I obeyed and chose not to, simply because I strongly believed that polygraphs are true devices and that if I don't lie, I'll simply pass. BUT, I failed while telling the truth!!
I'm sure however, that the pedophiles and the criminals WOULD look up information on the Internet pre polygraph, so that they may learn how to "pass". And why wouldn't they?? THEY HAVE something to hide.
The whole system should be flushed down the toilet. Even the National Academy of Science wrote a paper outlining the imprecision of the device.
I just don't understand why it is that in this day and age, our government agencies have to rely on pseudo junk science to hire and fire - or worse, to put people behind bars. I thought the ignorant days of the Salem witch hunts were over.
The Salem Witch Trials may be over, but the tendency to fry those with whom some disagree is not. Just read the book Farenhite 451 and see what I mean. I think we ARE ay 451.
I never thought to look up how to pass a test...I'm gonna do that now.
Meg
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